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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Great news today for console owners - the Australian High Court has ruled that mod chips are legal: THE High Court of Australia has unanimously ruled today that mod-chips are legal, a decision which will have far reaching implications for computer game manufacturers.Maybe now you can import those titles that aren't actually for sale in Australia and play them legally! Update: news.com.au have updated the original article to remove an incorrect line (which I carelessly quoted!) and add the following bad news: While the decision is likely to please gaming enthusiasts - settling a long-running dispute over the legality of the chips under Australia's current copyright laws - their victory is likely to be short-lived. |
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| #0 12:28pm 05/11/05 |
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smart
Posts: 2134
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and talk about them on z forums!
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| #1 01:30pm 06/10/05 |
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Xy
Posts: 251
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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Now somebody tell them kunts at EB about this so i can keep my warranty on my ps2 if i get it chipped.
Yeah right they would laugh me out of the store. P.S Nice lock for great justice trog ;P |
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| #2 01:34pm 06/10/05 |
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Greazy
Posts: 3229
Location: Canada
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Now somebody tell them kunts at EB about this so i can keep my warranty on my ps2 if i get it chipped.Yeah they will laugh at you. Not for saying that mod-chips are now legal, but for saying that moddifying your console wont break the warranty. |
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| #3 02:01pm 06/10/05 |
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Xy
Posts: 254
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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Eggzachery, and therefore untill my warranty runs out this is useless to me :/
By which time i should have a ps3. last edited by Xy at 14:03:58 06/Oct/05 |
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| #4 02:03pm 06/10/05 |
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Dan
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Posts: 7076
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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So a great victory for importers, now the real question, where's the best place to get a PS2 mod installed? And don't say blade (overpriced).
If anyone knows someone that does them privately, give me an address. Or alternatively, are there any reasonably priced solderless chips worth looking into? |
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| #5 02:09pm 06/10/05 |
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shad
Posts: 1281
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It's also legal to smash a console with a hammer if it's yours, doesn't mean the warranty will uphold.
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| #6 02:10pm 06/10/05 |
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Xy
Posts: 255
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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Also...
"While the decision is likely to please gaming enthusiast's -- settling a long-running dispute over the legality of the chips under Australia's current copyright laws -- their victory is likely to be short-lived. |
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| #7 02:14pm 06/10/05 |
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A_W
Posts: 601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The court quashed Sony's argument that the mod-chip was a practical way to prevent copyright infringement. Shouldn't that be commit copyright infringment Trog? I mean if mod chips *prevented* copyright infringement and not assisted it, then Sony and others would not have a problem with it. |
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| #8 02:17pm 06/10/05 |
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Mantorok
Posts: 2696
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Shouldn't that be commit copyright infringment Trog?trog didn't write the Australian IT article. |
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| #9 02:22pm 06/10/05 |
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A_W
Posts: 603
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah good point. Just thought he'd correct it himself. I know i do when i quote news. |
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| #10 02:25pm 06/10/05 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3015
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah good point. Just thought he'd correct it himself. I know i do when i quote news. But then your not actually quoting as such .. |
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| #11 03:31pm 06/10/05 |
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Hashy
Posts: 2441
Location: Netherlands
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Is chipping legal in America? I'm thinking no. I'm also thinking Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft of Australia's interest in the in Australian console market just dropped 10 fold.
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| #12 03:36pm 06/10/05 |
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TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2226
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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so johnny howard says its illegal and high court says it is legal..
is it or isnt it? |
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| #13 03:44pm 06/10/05 |
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GB
Posts: 27
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Australia just sucks. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it still illegal to put songs on to any kind of mp3 player? All of Australia's laws concerning IT are just stupid. |
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| #14 03:56pm 06/10/05 |
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Sc00bs
Posts: 2014
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Where is the best place to get it modded? and how much does it cost?
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| #15 03:59pm 06/10/05 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 17510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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* N U K E D *
Reason: Inappropriate |
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#16 10:49pm 06/10/05
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natslovR
Posts: 4555
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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Does that mean you can now unlock any locked modchip threads?
Now all we needs is some good FTA cases to hit the high court. Sorry MPAA, your implementation of region coding in DVDs contradicts the FTA with the US as well as local laws on competition. Even better would be everyone that had purchased a region 4 locked DVD receiving a substantial refund due to the MPAAs illegal price fixing. Note: MPAA used as a generic label for the hollywood dvd industry. It may not really be appropriate use of the acronym in this case |
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| #17 07:30pm 06/10/05 |
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sKryBe
Posts: 3179
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Didn't this go through like a year ago (based on Office of Fair Trade recommendations) then get overturned on appeal? So now it's been appealed again and the original decision reinstated?
Man the lawyers must love this sort of stuff... it's a license to print money for them. Sadly this will probably be legislated against by a different arm of the government thus rendering all the consumer rights wins null and void. |
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| #18 08:44pm 06/10/05 |
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Tanaka Khan
Posts: 1248
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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* N U K E D * By trog LOL...Nukes himself...someone take a screenshot! |
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| #19 02:46am 07/10/05 |
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Twisted
Posts: 9611
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What does this mean for people banned from Xbox Live for using a mod chip? |
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| #20 08:41am 07/10/05 |
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Khel
Posts: 10686
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Nothing, because legal or not, Microsoft decided right at the start that nobody with a modified console is allowed on Live. Its the only sensible way for them to run Live really, I mean, if you allowed people to play on Live with modchips enabled, there'd be hacks galore.
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| #21 10:04am 07/10/05 |
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0z
Posts: 1196
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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What does this mean for people banned from Xbox Live for using a mod chip? Means nothing, your xbox has a serial eeprom with a serial number that number is whats banned, that number is also used to lock you hard drive. There is a way around getting unbanned by changing the eeproms number but thats a very risky thing can make your xbox into a nice paper wieght. last edited by 0z at 10:33:41 07/Oct/05 |
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| #22 10:33am 07/10/05 |
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Splash
Posts: 2242
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There is a way around getting unbanned by changing the eeproms number but thats a very risky thing can make your xbox into a nice paper wieght. *insert xbox are huge lol joke here* |
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| #23 11:57am 07/10/05 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 17513
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Shouldn't that be commit copyright infringment Trog? I mean if mod chips *prevented* copyright infringement and not assisted it, then Sony and others would not have a problem with it.Yeh, you're totally right - I didn't read it carefully when I posted it, and then when I read your post I read it again and still got it wrong! news.com.au since deleted that crap and replaced it with all new stuff. |
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| #24 12:51pm 07/10/05 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 17514
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Also, make sure you note the update about the Free Trade Act
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| #25 01:04pm 07/10/05 |
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orbitor
Posts: 6722
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I only bought an xbox because it could be modded for the awesomeness that is XBMC.
I only bought many of the PC parts I did because I could overclock, volt-mod, BIOS mod, etc. them. I only bought my car because I could modify it. I would only buy a PSP because of the potential to mod it and run homebrew code. Pretty much anything factory and stock is just boring to me. I would be totally turned off buying a s***load of stuff if I couldn't customise it to my purposes. |
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parabol
Posts: 1774
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Pretty much anything factory and stock is just boring to me I agree. I mod pretty much everything that comes my way to an extent. Though some chicks hate it when you try to apply Hot Coffee :/ |
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| #27 01:57pm 07/10/05 |
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sKryBe
Posts: 3187
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That crap with the free trade act is what's wrong with the country. Two separate Govt organisations are espousing diametrically opposed opinions on what is right and good. And to top it off consumer response has indicated that the public agrees with mod-chipping and heck so does the supreme court. Yet because our pollies in Canberra are playing suck-up with the USA we're going to have all that overturned. Sometimes I hate our country. :(
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Kimbo
Posts: 191
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Man screw America. If I bought a game in Malaysia and wanted to play it over here because of certain 'disc region codes' I should be allowed to play it where ever I feel like. |
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TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2229
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That crap with the free trade act is what's wrong with the country. Two separate Govt organisations are espousing diametrically opposed opinions on what is right and good. And to top it off consumer response has indicated that the public agrees with mod-chipping and heck so does the supreme court. Yet because our pollies in Canberra are playing suck-up with the USA we're going to have all that overturned. fixed. |
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| #30 02:27pm 07/10/05 |
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Tuco
Posts: 641
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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f*** off somewhere else then
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| #31 02:32pm 07/10/05 |
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Fetal IceCream
Posts: 10
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and after EB employee laughs at you for wanting to keep your warranty on your modded console... they will then laugh at you, because by december this year, howard and his liberal controlled senate will have passed the amendment to the copyright laws making mod chips illegal permanantly. and they were already on the path to doing it BEFORE the free trade agreement with USA. |
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| #32 01:41am 08/10/05 |
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Xy
Posts: 270
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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That information might have been useful 2 days ago fetal, we are well up to speed now.
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| #33 01:48am 08/10/05 |
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nexus6
Posts: 5
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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From what i have seen, every single game or dvd any of my friends have ever bought overseas has been a pirate copy. I have no problem with people playing stuff from over seas (i really hate the whole region thing) but i do have a problem with pirated stuff. Has anyone here actually bought legitimate stuff over seas. Especially from south east asia? |
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| #34 02:15pm 09/10/05 |
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Xy
Posts: 281
Location: Mackay, Queensland
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Post count 5, Location canberra. hmmmm
What's it to ya fed? Everything anyone on these boards ever buys is 100% legitimate, now run along please. |
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| #35 02:24pm 09/10/05 |
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groydis
Posts: 495
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ive bought legit games from asian countrys that you would suspect to only every sell pirated games.
i bought them because a)they came out over 2 years earlier over there b) they never came out over here c)it was bucket loads cheaper. i |
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reload!
Posts: 2097
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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That crap with the free trade act is what's wrong with the country. Two separate Govt organisations are espousing diametrically opposed opinions on what is right and good. We seperate the judicial and legislative powers for a reason. If the two always conformed on everything we would have far less freedom. |
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Zwan
Posts: 47
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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From what i have seen, every single game or dvd any of my friends have ever bought overseas has been a pirate copy. I have no problem with people playing stuff from over seas (i really hate the whole region thing) but i do have a problem with pirated stuff. Has anyone here actually bought legitimate stuff over seas. Especially from south east asia? Yes i bought several copies of half life 2 for about 10 aus each for my computers at home, and we all know having that game pirated is almost pointless since its almost all online. |
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