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Topic: Neo, do you believe? ...I believe
Zylox
Posts: 268
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is all true and this is my story.

About October last year i had this dream/vision. Any way i was asleep one day and I had this dream where i woke up and i was lying on my back and lookin at the roof. I noticed it was still dark and there was a glow in my room like there was a light emmiting from my door. So I looked towards the door and i saw my door opened and i saw the Virgin Mary just outside the door. I was looking at her for about 2 seconds then my body felt really light and my body was shakin rapidly. It felt like i was my mid section of my body was being lifted and all the weight of my body was on my feet and my head, similar to how you see those gymnists arch their bodies with there belly in the air. The shaking sorta felt like an electic current flowing through me in an upward motion(NOT THAT I'D BEEN ELECTRICUTED B4). Another way i can sorta say it being similar to is when you get an adrenaline rush but it was lik 20 fold. I'm finding this very hard to explain. After this sensation which probably lasted 5 seconds i actually woke up for real. Sort of scared for a sec i looked over at the door and it was closed. Anyway i layed there thinkin about it for half an hour and then back to sleep.

The weeks past and I put the dream/vision down to that i woke up cos i got scared, being that the Virgin Mary was transparent and ghostlike. And i put the electricity sensation down to being that goosebump feeling you get when something scares the crap outa you.
I work night shift at a supermarket and used to finish @ 4am. I'd come home and have a few beers to try and knock me out to sleep better in the daylight. Meanwhile i'd be watchin what few shows the television stations broadcast at that hour. I got into a habit of watching Benny Hinn's "This is Your Day". For those of you who haven't seen this show it's a session of church basically, on TV. Benny Hinn also does these miracle crusades where he heals people. These are shown some days through the week. In about May i saw that he was coming to Brisbane Friday/Saturday the 25th and 26th. I decided i would go.

Saturday the 26th came and i arrived at the Brisbane Entertainment Centre at about 7:20pm and I was 20mins late. I arrived only to find out the whole centre was packed out and they were sending everyelse into what they called an overflow room. This was a huge indoor sporting room which consisted of about 6 or so basketball courts. They had heaps of chairs there for the overflow people and we were watchin Benny on these 2 very big TV screens. This particular event was what was called a miricle crusade. When the time of healling came he said it was time to heal and he told everyone that he knew cos he get this numbness in his hand. Benny said you too can feel this if you put your hands in the air. I put my hands in the air and withn seconds my hands were very very warm and i could feel heat emitting from may hands. The heat like if you put your hand over a toaster on a cool day. He said "do you's all feel it?" and then he said "touch" 3 times. Whenever he said touch I could feel an unseen force touching my palm. Similar to that of putting you hand over the hole of a subwoofer for your computer as the the bass pumps. There was one part of the night where he called all of the kids up to the stage from the section in front of him. He pointed at them and said "boom", all the kidds fell to the ground crying and rolling on the ground in some sort of dream state.

About a week later(30th of June?) I had been up for hours after work trying to finish reading the revelations on this page -> www.themiracleofstjoseph.org and i finally finished reading them and went to bed. Anyway i was asleep dreaming about somthing, I cant remember what though and out of the blue i got that electricity sensation again. I went back to sleep not long after my alarm went off and I had to get up to go to work. I was so tired after only about 4hours sleep I was laying inbed falling back sleep and thinking "i gotta get up"... "I gotta get up i'll be late for work" I was also thinkin "I shouldn't have stayed up reading those revelations for so long". Then all of a sudden i heard a cheerful and happy mans voice. He said "here we go...la di da di da". Then straight after that was siad i got the electricity sensation again and i was wide awake. It was like the man (Jesus? an angel?)knew what i was thinking and knew i was too tired to get up and he woke me up. I then got ready and went to work.

I'll say again all events took place and this is no bs. Thank you.

This electricity feeling does n e one know what it is??? blessing??? anointing???
Has anyone experienced this or know of someone who has. Anyone had similar dreams/visions or know of someone who has???

For those who wanna see an episode of Benny Hinn -> http://www.bennyhinn.com/broadcast/tiyd.cfm
and the homepage -> www.bennyhinn.com

any questions or other info please reply...
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scuzzy
Posts: 10568
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
woops acidenly pressed enter...gimmie 10 mins and i'll have this fixed
10 mins? you can press the Red X to your right in less than a few Seconds.
BoBa
Posts: 1502
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
woops acidenly slipped in the bathroom and fell on the deodorant can...gimmie 10 mins and i'll have this fixed

FIXED!
Zylox
Posts: 269
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah thanks for bringing to my attention the red x. i hadnt used it b4.
Dan
Posts: 6650
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Will the red x add paragraphs or make it any less of a retarded story?
Lits
Posts: 3063
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
one can only hope.
existence`
Posts: 4165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
tripper

stop eating f***ing fridge elements

they no good
Deadly-Fly
Posts: 2113
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Let me guess, the Virgin Mary was white?
Zylox
Posts: 270
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I just watched yesterday Benny Hinn and it was the Brisbane Miricle Crusade.
You can watch it here -> http://www.bennyhinn.com/broadcast/tiyd.cfm
the wed July 7 is what was in brisbane on the 26th of june.
Spook
Posts: 8451
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
DONT EVER POST HERE AGAIN
SushiGalsdotcom
Posts: 66
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I want some of what he's been smoking.
Mantra
Posts: 650
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I can see this getting messy...
dice
Posts: 437
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
The mind makes it real.
Da J Man
Posts: 22
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Quote from ne of the greatest musicians od all time... Knofler
"two men say they're Jesus... one of them must be wrong...?"
Did you ever see the special on late nite tv, where this dude had this mind control technique and used it to collect winnings at greyhound races when he clearly lost and such, and make this dude believe that he was getting socked in the stomach, (when he clearly wasnt) these miracal healers sound like that guy, but use the techniques to build themselves up to be a God like creature for their own big head. Thats my 2 cents
Stokesy
Posts: 919
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The "electricity" feeling is actually very normal, it happens to everyone every night, its just that they are usually unconscious by time it happens.

What you're feeling is your body shutting down and getting ready for sleep. But for some reason your mind is staying conscious while your body is falling asleep.

When your body falls asleep and your mind stays awake, the part of your brain that detirmines reality from dreams switches off, explaining the common hallucenations.

This is pretty common with people that have f***ed up sleeping patterns, i.e. you.

So dont get too worked up about it, its not a blessing from the gods, just a sleep disorder, I get it all the time aswell.

last edited by Stokesy at 10:34:48 08/Jul/04
Halo
Posts: 283
Location: New South Wales

I beleive you. I was saved years ago when i was still a teenager. I am a reasonable person but i was flawed by the experience.
rolo_tomasi
Posts: 169
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
AHAHAHAHA



Zoloft dude.

edit: I confess I didnt read it all. I scanned and saw 'electricity' 'virgin mary' and that was enough.


last edited by rolo_tomasi at 10:53:20 08/Jul/04
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8592
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Deadly-Fly
Posts: 2115
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I am a reasonable person but i was flawed by the experience.
Must have been traumatic.
stinky
Posts: 151
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Benny Hinn is pretty awesome, but for true showmanship in the name of Jesus, try Benny Hill.
HERMITech
Posts: 1217
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Sounds like hypnosis to me. I was always under the impression, only weak minded or weak willed people can be hypnotised
Halo
Posts: 285
Location: New South Wales
I always thought NO-one would be able to goto a local church open there mind get saved and walk away not changed... ;)
maxe
Posts: 8358
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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WhiteWolf
Posts: 645
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ahh. no. a post from whitewolf(sheep) in a christain baised thread. tell him to quit preaching.

actualy what interested me most in this thread was Stokesy explenation of this electricity.

when im falling asleep, occationaly ill be more or less asleep and i will be walking down a road or something, then all of a sudden i trip or something and my whole body jolts. (unfortunatly it jolts me awake).

interesting story, what was the point of it? I don't think the dream had anything to do with anything because "Virgin Mary" isn't actualy an angle or any thing imporant. i mean technicaly she isn't even a virgin anymore. ;)

last edited by WhiteWolf at 11:42:44 08/Jul/04
Mantra
Posts: 654
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^^ Hahahahaha!

That is truly classic...

Edit: The pic, not Whitewolfs heart warming jolting story.. ;)

last edited by Mantra at 11:40:36 08/Jul/04
spidz
Posts: 5414
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

all the dragons in the world won't help this story.
SD Gundam
Posts: 2469
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
when im falling asleep, occationaly ill be more or less asleep and i will be walking down a road or something, then all of a sudden i trip or something and my whole body jolts. (unfortunatly it jolts me awake).
Well landing on your face tends to have a shock effect. And as far as your mind is concerned yor dream is real in fact you body can't move while dreaming so you don't injure yourself or wear yourself out. Some people find they can't move if they wake suddenly from a dream because their body is still paralised. With the waking thing I've had dreams where I've been falling (off a bicycle or bulding etc.) and just before I hit the payment I wake up with a nasty shock.
Grunt
Posts: 1720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fkn churchies
imitation
Posts: 2256
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He said "here we go...la di da di da"


Sorry I was listening to bruce springstein - hot august nights really loud, my bad.
Murderer
Posts: 1087
Location: Tasmania
Man that pic is classic :P.

Stokesy
Posts: 920
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
when im falling asleep, occationaly ill be more or less asleep and i will be walking down a road or something, then all of a sudden i trip or something and my whole body jolts. (unfortunatly it jolts me awake).


Yeah, thats pretty common aswell.

As for the electricty, well, its not actually electricity, it just feels like it. A very strong vibrating sensation. There isn't actually any official explanation, but it is just your body being shut down, and is the border between being awake and being asleep.

When you get that "being pulled out of your body" feeling and seeing the virgin mary, you are essentially just dreaming with your eyes open. The only reason you "see" the virgin mary is because you have religion on the mind. Back in the medieval ages, people used to see demons and things. Many people say they feel en evil presence, and see a dark figure coming closer and closer to them. It's all in your mind. If you are intereted google for "Sleep Paralysis" which is closely tied in with what you are experiencing.

last edited by Stokesy at 12:08:22 08/Jul/04
spidz
Posts: 5415
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this thread really is making baby jesus himself cry.
WhiteWolf
Posts: 646
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its not the landing that wakes me up. its the feeling of falling, just the sudden "woop" that my stomach does, exept 20 or so times worse.

actualy come to think of it, i am probably in dream state, my body does this jolt thing and then my mind relates it to a real life situation where it happend before(ie the tripping)
Stokesy
Posts: 921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, its as if your body jolts to compensate for the landing. Sometimes my entire body just does a huge convulsion and actually lifts my body off the bed. Quite a shock.

EDIT: This is different to the electricity feeling he is describing, the electricty is more of a humming or buzzing than a big jolt.

last edited by Stokesy at 12:15:50 08/Jul/04
WhiteWolf
Posts: 647
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, its as if your body jolts to compensate for the landing. Sometimes my entire body just does a huge convulsion and actually lifts my body off the bed. Quite a shock.


nah, now that i think of it, it happends just when i start falling.
Makaveli
Posts: 1144
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have a f***ed up sleeping pattern, staying up all night till the sun comes up then i wake at around 4:30pm in the afternoon. Sometimes when i'm going to sleep i'll thinking of something and something will happen, me fall over or what ever and my whole body jolts. Much like what that other guy in this thread said happens to him.
r_mazing
Posts: 195
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeh the jolt(from a feeling of fallin) thing happens to most people
Thundercracker
Posts: 575
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its not the landing that wakes me up. its the feeling of falling, just the sudden "woop" that my stomach does, exept 20 or so times worse.

actualy come to think of it, i am probably in dream state, my body does this jolt thing and then my mind relates it to a real life situation where it happend before(ie the tripping)

This is a well document minor sleep disorder. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but its fairly common. You get the sensation of falling as your are trying to get to sleep and then your body reacts by jolting you out of your sleep. I get it now and again, most of the time during a daytime nap (god knows why).
cobz
Posts: 1168
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
I remember having a dream/vision while I was semi awake a few years ago. (no bulls***)

I was on a drawbridge and there was this weird looking daemon wielding a sword, I drew a picture or what it kind of looked like (its head was made up of 3 spikes, kind of like a praying mantis);

http://www.mtcarmel.woll.catholic.edu.au/home/sgiles/spike.JPG

Then I remember falling in to a f***ed up abyss, something like beksinski's artwork

http://www.beksinski.pl/

(This guy supposably had a 6 month coma where he claimed he was trapped in the depths of hell, when he awoke he started painting what he saw)

I forced myself to float for a bit then awoke in a room filled with Egyptian symbols and furniture. (crescent’s and hieroglyphs)

Then I was in pitch black, so I kinda forced myself to move to the left really fast and then I came out of some weird shaped hexagonal structure;

http://www.mtcarmel.woll.catholic.edu.au/home/sgiles/linked.JPG

Which I was inside of, but there were many other dark "rooms" attached to the same structure so I kinda "flew" inside each of them and found that I could manipulate the surroundings once inside (create a sky, trees etc)

Then I was in space again, and I was hanging from a rip, and inside this rip was 3 old men with white beards in a room full of clocks staring at me, it was pretty freaky, I could even see the earth below.

So I woke myself up, and it was morning, I pretty much hallucinated for 5-6 hours, I was partially awake the whole time.









Crizane Tribal
Posts: 227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Holy crap, i know what you mean white wolf! you don't even trip, it's just a stumble and it jerks you awake. I also get the paralysis thing all the time.
GumbyNoTalent
Posts: 5103
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wierest dream I have (recurring) is floating above myself then drifting off, but instead of the roff being there its not, and as I drift up and away my room looks like a open cardboard box surrounded by nothingness... eventually it is just a pinhole in the darkness. I usually wake up then.
Slydog
Posts: 41
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Its called astral travel, people do it all the time. Its where you become conscious while your physical body is asleep. Quite interesting when you get into it as you can verify that there is something that exists after your physical body dies.
WhoopAss
Posts: 6115
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I had a terrible nightmare, I dreamed qgl was invaded by churchies. I'm hoping I'll wake up very soon.
HERMITech
Posts: 1219
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Makaveli
Posts: 1176
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Told you i had a f***ed up sleeping disorder, look at the time i f***en posted this f***en s***ty f***en post, IT f***ING SUCKS, f***.



f***
Viper119
Posts: 462
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
your not supposed to drink the bongwater.
bargain
Posts: 549
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hermitech, some people just take it too far... fair enough disagree, but that is disrespecting so many people on a whole new level...
Zylox
Posts: 271
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i have fallen, been shot, freaked out and bitten by dinosaur lookin thing and have woken up like yous guys but this is way different. I think everyone has shat themself in a dream and woken up.
I asure you this was not one of them.

and the astrotraveller ...you for real?
Khel
Posts: 7909
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Its called astral travel, people do it all the time. Its where you become conscious while your physical body is asleep. Quite interesting when you get into it as you can verify that there is something that exists after your physical body dies.


What the f*** ever, has it ever been proven under scientific conditions? No? Come talk to me then when you've got some proof.

Its a dream, your mind is probably just re-creating rooms and stuff you saw when you were awake and playing them back at you. I'd like to see an experiment where they put a person in a room, then go into the room next door and re-arrange everything, then put the person to sleep and have them magically astrally project into the room next door, then wake up and tell everyone what it looked like and where everything was.

The brain is stupidly complex, theres all sorts of stuff happening inside there that a lot of very smart people still dont have any idea about. People who talk about stuff like astral projection often throw around the "Dont be so closed minded" response when they get attacked. Well I say its these people who are the closed minded ones, so ready to ignore the brain's potential for causing strange things to happen and so ready to just claim its some otherworldly, magical phenomenon instead.
Khel
Posts: 7910
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also, as for stuff like that Benny Hinn story, its like someone said previously, not much more than mass hypnosis. Theres a term for it I can't remember, but basically by talking in certain ways and with certain tones in their voice they can influence the mind and make it think things are happening, etc. If you've ever read Snow Crash, the idea is touched on a bit there as well (albeit, taken a lot furthur than I'm suggesting, it is a sci-fi book after all). Tony Robbins uses a bit of the same thing in his talks to manipulate your mind and get you thinking in new ways, etc.

Not to belittle anyones faith, but I really doubt God is going to come down to some random televangelist's live show and touch people's hands. I'm sure if he exists then he has much better things to do with his time.
bargain
Posts: 552
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
omnipotence pretty much covers that, khel :P
HERMITech
Posts: 1220
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but that is disrespecting so many people on a whole new level...

Bargain, how is a picture of Christ being nailed to a cross disrespectful? Isn't that what the whole christian faith thing based on? I'm pretty sure it was, at least it was when I was an altar boy...
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